Categories: 

Why Creation and Test?

• Why Creation
  • The Problem with Allah and Mankind's Creation
  • Unanswered Question: What Was the Underlying Reason Behind CREATION?

• Why Test?
  • Allah's Test is the Greatest Injustice Against Mankind
  • Allah's FAILURE to pass his own TEST of showing a Miracle
  • Allah's FAILURE to even UNDERSTAND the 3 Questions by the Jews

• Why No Free Will?
  • Free Will Doesn't Exist In Islam

Flawless divine revelation or merely a flawed human drama?

The question at hand is whether Islam represents a flawless divine revelation or merely a flawed human drama. By examining its content, one can determine its true nature and discern whether it bears the marks of divine wisdom or human fallibility. Take the time to read and reflect in order to arrive at your own conclusion.

• Divine Revelation OR a Human Drama?
  • Muhammad's journey from 4 wives to 9 wives with the HELP of Revelation
  • The Satanic Verses: The Original Incident Exposing Muhammad & Revelation
  • Quran's Mathematical Mistakes in the inheritance Laws
  • Abdullah Ibn Abi Sarh: The APOSTATE Scriber of the Quran
  • IFK: The Huge Clash between the Quran & Muhammad's Actions
  • The Mystery of Muhammad's Hatred for Dogs
  • Muhammad ordered killing an innocent man in his personal case
  • Saf ibn Sayyad (An Equally Important Incident as the Satanic Verses)
  • Why did Allah WRONGLY assume that Uthman was killed in Hudaybiyyah?
  • Muhammad: Keep enjoying beautiful wife even if she commits adultery
  • No Wisdom behind Islamic Lunar Calendar & 4 Sacred Months
  • Muhammad's Ridiculous Orders of using anus/penis water for Evil Eye
  • Using Water after Defecation: Why did Allah take 22 Years for this Logical Ruling?
  • The Story of War Booty: Divine Revelation or Human-Made Revelation?
  • Sex with Mariyah vs. the Honey Incident
  • Did the companion Dihyah al-Kalbi play the role of Gabriel?
  • Muhammad's Claim: The Nile and Euphrates Flow from Paradise – A Story he Plagiarized from the Bible
  • Muhammad MUTILATED LIVING Animals and GARLANDED them with Shoes
  • Why Did Revelation Stop for 3 Years After the Death of Waraqah?
  • Muhammad caught SNORING during Revelation (instead of Shivering)
  • Muhammad Created Sharia on His Own and Called it Revelation LATER
  • 'Azl: Burying Child Alive or Not?
  • Iblis and His Entire Nation of Satans Were Unaware of the Prophethood of Muhammad and existence of the Muslims for Many Years

Islamic Slavery

A huge conflict exists between humanity and religion, particularly concerning the matter of Islamic Slavery. This is a crucial issue that led many Muslims to doubt and question Islam and finally to abandon it and become ex-Muslims.

• Islamic Slavery
  • The Crimes of Islamic Slavery against Humanity
  • Islam: NO Hijab for Slave Women and their Breasts NAKED in public
  • Arguments Used by Islamists to Justify Islamic Slavery
  • ٰIslamic Excuse: Slavery was not abolished due to ongoing Wars
  • Did the owner need slave girl's CONSENT for sex?

External Links:

• Slavery in Islam (TheReligionOfPeace.Com): A short, yet concise article Islamic slavery, especially how millions of slaves died due to it. 

Scientific Inaccuracies in the Revelation

According to Islam, Allah is believed to be completely 100% perfect. As a result, if it can be demonstrated that there is even a "single" scientific error in the Islamic revelation, it would undermine the entire foundation of Islam, which is built upon the premise of Allah's 100% infallibility. Modern Science is an ultimate weapon which will expose the false religions and dismantle their claims.

• Scientific Mistakes in the Revelation
  • Scientific Blunders: Quranic Rain, Hail, Cloud, Flat Earth & Cosmology Models
  • Quranic Scientific Blunder: Static Stars turn into Shooting Stars to hit Jinns like Missiles
  • Islam: Why Did Humans Stay in the Stone Age for 290,000 Years?
  • Scientific Blunder of the Quran: Sky is a Solid Physical Object
  • No Credit goes to Islam for early Muslim Scientists & their discoveries
  • Quranic Scientific Mistake about the 12 Lunar Months
  • Quranic Mistake: The heart is responsible for Thinking
  • The Scientific Error of Islam Regarding the Spoilage of Meat
  • The Useless Answer by the Quran About the Changing Phases of the Moon
  • Suffering of Pregnant Women Due to the Scientific Mistake of Muhammad
  • Quranic Mistake: Stars didn't Originate from the Earth/Heavens, but Created Separately Later
  • Allah was in Clouds & His Throne was on Water before the Creation
  • Prophetic Science: Women Experience Wet Dreams, and Their Discharge is Yellow

External Links:

• A LIST of Scientific Errors in the Quran (WikiIslam.Net)

• A LIST of Scientific Errors in Hadith (WikiIslam.Net)

• Semen Production in the Quran

Child ABUSE in Islam

• Child Rape in Islam
  • Islam: Even a breastfed baby Girl can be married and used for sex
  • Aisha's Marriage: Was She 9 or 19? (All Islamic Arguments Examined)
  • Islam: An adoptive father can forcibly marry his beautiful, minor, adopted Daughter
  • Societies Before Muhammad That Prohibited Marriages of 9-Year-Old Girls
  • Extreme DANGERS to 9-year-old mothers & their babies
  • Daniel Haqiqatjou: Shorter life span was reason for marriage at 9
  • Does verse 4:6 prohibit marriage with minor girls
  • The permissibility of pedophilia by Islam and its scholars

• Child Abuse in Islam
  • Parents should not be allowed to impose their religion on children
  • Innocent Children: Why are they Called ‘Illegitimate Bastards’ by Islam?
  • Islam vs Adopted Children: How Islam Impacts Their Lives Negatively
  • Mother's Milk Banks for Infants closed in Islamic countries
  • Cousin Marriage: Allah is responsible for miseries of disabled children
  • Children are Property and no Punishment for Fathers for killing them

Women

• Women and Hijab
  • Islam Prohibited Hijab for Slave Women and kept their Breasts Naked
  • There is no concept of Natural Love in Islam, but only SEX
  • Unnatural Islamic hijab and modesty lead only to sexual frustration
  • Scientific Studies: Diseases that are caused due to the Hijab
  • The Negative role of 'Hijab' in the incident of Ifk
  • Debate: Is Veiling for Women Good? (Daniel vs Nuriyah Khan)
  • Women vs Candy: The Flawed Islamic Logic of Hijab
  • The First Hijab Verse (24:31): Lowering the Gaze While Women's Chests Remained NAKED
  • Dear Muslim Women: Hijab Is Not Your Choice
  • Shaking hands with women: Muhammad used to hold their hands
  • ٰIslamist's Claim: The West forces women to wear Revealing Clothes
  • The Hijab: Experiences and Opinions of ex-Muslim Hijabi Girls
  • Slave women of Umar used to serve guests with Naked Breasts
  • The verse of Hijab was not revealed due to the incident of Umar/Saudah

• Women and Divorce
  • Liaan لعان (Accusation of Adultery): Another Injustice against women
  • No Khul خلع for a woman without the Husband's consent
  • Zihar (Another unjust Islamic way to Divorce a woman)
  • Ila (الإيلاء): Another Tool given in hands of Husbands by Islam to control their wives by punishing them
  • Halala (Tahleel Marriage)
  • ‘Iddah (waiting period) is illogical & injustice against women
  • Strange Islam: A woman loses custody of her children if she REMARRIES
  • The Unjust process of 3 Talaqs (Divorces) against woman in Islam
  • Issues with Islamic Faskh فسخ (dissolution of marriage)
  • No right to Divorce for Woman even if Husband doesn't do sex for years
  • Does Islamic Law Allow a Wife to Set Divorce Conditions in Marriage Contracts?

• Women (General)
  • Brutal Wife BEATING in Islam (Recommendation VS Actual Law)
  • If Muslim Men Get Houris, What Will Muslim Women Get in Paradise?
  • Women's testimony is not even half but ZERO in serious Hudud cases
  • Islamic Injustice: An InFERTILE woman should not be married
  • Did Safiyyah willingly sleep with Muhammad despite killing of her relatives?
  • Aisha Bathing in the Presence of Two Men with Naked Upper Body
  • Islam and the disease of Virginophilia only for women
  • Islamist's Accusation: The West put Double Burden upon women
  • Why didn't Allah EXPLICITLY Ended (or at least EXPLICITLY Limited) Female Genital Mutilation?
  • MISOGYNY in Islam
  • Muhammad: Women are Deficient in Intelligence
  • Islamic Logic: Wives betray their husbands due to Eve
  • Islam COPIED Pagan Custom: Only man has to give Mahr & Maintenance
  • Women will make the Majority in Hellfire
  • Can a Muslim Man Be Killed for Killing a Woman?
  • Women's Rights vs. Men's Rights in Islam
  • Islamists: Why women should not be given Equal Rights
  • Is Marital Rape OK due to previous CONSENT to Nikah?
  • Hadith: Nikah is valid even if two witnesses give false testimony
  • Did Arabs really use to bury their newborn girls?
  • Why no Clear Verse about 4 Witnesses in RAPE cases?
  • Islamists' Strategies to Glorify Islamic Polygamy
  • Misyaar Marriage: Why do Muslim women agree to it despite humiliation
  • Why are Muslim women so religious if Islam oppresses them?
  • Is Islamic Polygyny Superior to Western Men Having Multiple Partners?
  • How can Physical Menstruation makes Women Spiritually Impure?
  • Women's Empowerment? [Islam vs. The West]

Quran

Who Wrote the Quran: Allah or Muhammad? We encourage readers to explore the following article:

• Role of Revelation in Prophet's journey from 4 marriages to 9 marriages

After that, you will be convinced beyond doubt that Muhammad was indeed the author of the Quran.

• Quran
  • Weak Islam = Peaceful Verses , Strong Islam = Violent Verses
  • The Ridiculous Level of Incoherence in the Quran
  • Linguistic Mistake in the Quran, Indicating Its Human Origins

• Quran's Inimitability Challenge
  • Not a SINGLE Native Arabic Speaker (Pagan or Jew) converted to Islam due to the alleged Greatest Miracle of the Quran's Inimitability Challenge
  • Quran's Inimitability challenge VS Pagan's Bring a Miracle challenge
  • Logical Proofs against Quran's Inimitability Challenge

• Naskh: Abrogation of the Satanic Verses
• Naskh: Abrogations in order to fulfil Muhammad's sexual desires
• Naskh: Verse of "No Compulsion in Religion" has been ABROGATED

External Links:

• Contradictions in the Quran (WikiIslam.Net)
• Historical Errors in the Quran (WikiIslam.Net)

• Parallels Between the Qur'an and Late Antique Judeo-Christian Literature (WikiIslam.Net)

Hadith

When Muhammad claimed to receive revelations about the unseen, no one could confirm or deny it since people never saw Gabriel. However, when any historical incident happened during the life of Muhammad, then many people became DIRECT eye-witnesses to that historical event, and they also narrated that incident further. However, the problem for Muslims was that many of those incidents were exposing Muhammad and Islam and proving them to be false. 

Subsequent generations of Islamic apologists took two approaches to control the damage:

1. Firstly, they fabricated hundreds of thousands of false Ahadith to counter genuine incidents. 
2. Secondly, they created Ilm-ul-Hadith (Science of Hadith), which should serve as a TOOL to declare any incident as WEAK and UNRELIABLE which exposed Muhammad/Islam.

It is impossible to prove these Ahadith as a fabrication as all hadith transmitters were Muslims. However, we are fortunate that contradictions in these fabrications sometimes expose them as lies.

The following articles detail historical incidents where fabricated Hadith and Ilm-ul-Hadith were fortunately exposed due to CONTRADICTIONS within them.

• The UNRELIABILITY of Hadith and Ilm-ul-Hadith
  • The Lie of Moon Splitting: Ample Proof that Hadiths Cannot Be Trusted
  • 131 Ahadith claimed Issac was the son who was slaughtered, but then 133 Ahadith were FABRICATED to prove Ismael was slaughtered

• Hadith (General)
  • Which Hadith can be TRUSTED and which cannot?
  • 365 Worst Ahadith (with exceptional explanations by the author)
  • Everything wrong with Islam (Directly from Hadith Sources)

Hoaxes of the Quranic Miracles

Muslim preachers have manipulated millions of innocent individuals by propagating falsehoods in the guise of Quranic miracles and predictions. In reality, the Quran lacks any genuine miracles and is instead marred by scientific inaccuracies. Our aim is to help liberate those who have fallen victim to this religious propaganda and present them with the truth.

• Hoaxes of the Quranic Miracles
  • Quranic Scientific Mistake: Mountains are pegs
  • The Pharaoh’s Mummy: Uncovering Islamist Deceptions and Falsehoods
  • Scientific Blunders in the Quranic Big Bang
  • Did the Quran Really State that the Universe Is Expanding?
  • Debunking the Miracle of 360 Joints
  • The Moon Splitting Miracle: The Quran TESTIFIES it never happened
  • Quran describes Gender determination by Male Sperm
  • The Defeat of the Romans in the Nearest Land: A Quranic Miracle or a Quranic Mistake?
  • Zamzam Water: Miracles or Deceptions?
  • Did the Quran predict Pulsars and Black Holes? (At-Tariq)
  • Discussion of numerical miracles in the Quran
  • The City of Iram & false claim of Quranic Miracle by Islamists
  • Muhammad the Medical Doctor [Hadith Collection]
  • Does verse 39:5 truly assert that the Earth is a sphere?
  • Surah al-Fil: Did Abraha ever attack Ka'ba?
  • Dr. Keith Moore vs. Muhammad: Who is wrong about the ALAQA Stage
  • Camel Urine: Remedy or Risk? Miracle or Blunder?

External Links: 

• A Full List of alleged Quranic Miracles and their Refutation (WikiIslam Page)

• Qur'an and the Descent of Iron

Last Hour Prophecies

Before reading the rebuttal of Muhammad's Prophecies, it is Highly Recommended to please read this article first:

• Muhammad was unable to show a Single Miracle during his life

This article shows how Muhammad, throughout his life, was unable to perform a Single Miracle despite repeated DEMANDS from both pagans and Jews (and the Quran itself attests to this). Therefore, how could Muhammad be capable of performing any miracles in the form of prophecies after his death?

• Last Hour Prophecies
  • The Prophecy of Tall Buildings: An Analysis and Rebuttal
  • All Prophecies of the Last Hour from Muhammad are FALSE
  • Prophetic prediction: The sun will rise from the WEST
  • The False Prophecy of the Buttocks of the Women of Dhi-al-Khalasaa

Dangers from an Islamic State

• Dangers from an Islamic State
  • Original War Rulings of Islam
  • Why are non-Muslim not allowed to PREACH in Islamic Countries?
  • The Verse of Killing all Polytheists (Quran 9:5) is still VALID today
  • Verse of "No Compulsion in Religion" has been ABROGATED
  • Understanding Jihad: An Offensive War (not a defensive war)
  • Jizya and Other Humiliations of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State
  • Non-Muslim festivals cannot be celebrated openly in Islamic States

History

• History
  • The History of the Spread of Islam
  • No Archaeological Proofs of Quranic Supernatural Stories about SOLOMON

• History of the Jews of Medina
  • History: How Did Muhammad's Enmity Against the Jews Begin?

External Links:

• Pre-Islamic Arab Religion in Islam (WikiIslam.Net)

Islam (General)

• Islam (General)
  • Prophet Muhammad used to kiss the PENIS of small boys Hassan
  • Reasons to LEAVE Islam: A short but concise Book
  • Adam came only 6000 years ago according to Islamic Traditions
  • Ramadan: Out of Balance Islamic Approach causing HARMS
  • Eid al-Adha: The Negative Side
  • A LIST of Tehrif (Distortions) in English Translation of Islamic Texts
  • Does Halal Slaughter produce better Meat Quality?
  • Are Islamic countries really ahead in watching Porn Movies?
  • Breastfeeding Adults: Why was Muhammad forced to allow it?
  • Changes in Sex Life After Leaving Islam
  • Muhammad adopted Sharia Punishments from the Pagans of the Time of Ignorance
  • Islam and Black People and Islamic Propaganda
  • Alcohol: Muhammad banned it to keep full control over his companions
  • 5 times daily Islamic prayers cause Mental Stress
  • ٰIslam vs Dayouth (Cuckold)
  • 4 Eyewitnesses: Muslims compelled to change Islamic Laws
  • The Real History of the Zamzam Well
  • The Myths and Truths Behind Islam's Prohibition on Pork Consumption
  • Did Muhammad wed multiple Widows to support them and Political reasons??
  • Valentine’s Day: Love is the First Rebel of Islam & the REBELLION will Live On
  • Muslims Boasting about Cleanliness in Islam
  • Why did Muhammad worship Allah despite knowing he himself created Him?
  • Killing of Women/Children in COLLATERAL Damage [Muhammad vs. the USA]
  • Are Muslims really the Happiest people in the World?
  • Is it possible to REFORM Islam?
  • Masjidul Aqsa (By Ali Sina)
  • Having SEX with multiple wives or multiple slave girls at the same time in Islam
  • Did Polytheist really call Muhammad Sadiq (Truthful) and Ameen (Trustworthy)?

Blasphemy & Apostasy

• Blasphemy
  • Abu Bakr's Blasphemy: Go and SUCK the clitoris of pagan goddess al-Lat
  • Islamophobia vs Kafirophobia
  • To Ridicule/Insult/Blaspheme is a fundamental human RIGHT
  • Using Holocaust laws to defend Islamic Blasphemy Laws
  • Why doesn't the West consider insulting the Quran a crime?

• Apostasy
  • APOSTASY: Refuting The Muslim Lantern, Danial Haqiqatjou & Zakir Naik
  • Pakistan's Response to International Criticism on Apostasy Laws

Science and Evolution

• Science & Evolution
  • Islamists: A Lightbulb Needs a Creator, But the Universe Doesn’t?
  • Objection: A Mobile Phone has a Creator but Humans do not?
  • Misusing the Monkey-Typewriter Analogy to Discredit Evolution

Atheism

Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, and other religions do not possess the capacity to draw Muslims towards their respective beliefs. However, atheism has been automatically eroding the ranks of Muslims and establishing its own presence. This phenomenon has been occurring since the inception of Islam, even without the presence of an organized atheist movement or active preaching. With the advent of modern science and the prevalence of secular systems, this trend has witnessed a significant surge in recent times.

• Atheism
  • Why Is the Suicide Rate Higher in the Atheist Community?
  • Misuse of ‘Secularism’ by Islamists in the West to refuse Integration
  • Divorce Rate: Does non-religious system destroys family system?
  • You don't need to deny the existence of God/gods to leave Islam
  • Boycott the Quranic Term 'Mulhid' and Use 'Atheist' Instead
  • Is a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship immoral?
  • Islamists: Atheists cannot Explain why Sex with a Dead Body is Immoral
  • How Atheists Handle Tough Times Without God
  • Muslim: How victims get justice according to Atheists
  • Is premarital sex in the West breaking marriages later?
  • Islamic Objection: Girls are having Sex in the West at 9-11
  • Objection to French Law for Banning Paternity Test (Daniel Haqiqatjou)
  • Prophet Muhammad brought 100% Destruction upon his opponents
  • Will Atheists let their wives and daughters move Nude in Public?
  • Past Colonialism gives no right to Muslims over the present day West
  • The 14 Edicts of Ashoka the Great: Promoting Humanity
  • What is the Purpose of Life as an Atheist?
  • What is the Concept of Justice and Punishment in Atheism?

Morality

• All Muslim Objections answered about Morality and Atheism

Incest

• Incest
  • INCEST: The non-religious Western System VS. the Islamic System
  • Incest in Islamic Pakistan

🏳️‍🌈 LGBTQ+

• LGBTQ+
  • Homosexuality: All objections of Islamic Preachers answered
  • The Suffering of Intersex Individuals Due to Illogical and Unjust Islamic Teachings
  • Homosexuality: Is it a test from Allah?
  • A Love Story of a Homosexual Person
  • Zakir Naik: Homosexuality begins when you violate the rule of Hijab
  • The Sufferings of a Homosexual Person in Islamic Society

• Transgenders
  • Personal Pronouns: Why They Matter
  • The Issue of Trans Women in Women’s Prisons
  • Transgender Women in Women’s Restrooms & Bathrooms
  • Can Women's Sports Stay Competitive with Trans Women Athletes?

Ex-Muslims

Among minority groups in Islamic countries, it is commonly believed that Ahmadi Muslims face the greatest threats to their lives. However, this estimation significantly misses the mark. The most persecuted individuals within Islamic societies are actually ex-Muslims.

• Ex-Muslims
  • Why Can't Ex-Muslims Just Leave Islam Alone?
  • Exmuslim Guide to Living in the Closet and Coming Out
  • Why do ex Muslims think that they are experts on Islam?
  • Our Journey Out of Islam: A Painful and Dangerous Ride
  • Why do ex-Muslims continue to refer to themselves as ex-Muslims?
  • Do people have no Right to Criticize Islam without a PhD Degree?
  • Intelligence and Critical Thinking is a CURSE for Muslim Kids
  • Ex-Muslim Youtube Content Producers
  • Are "Ex-Muslims" obsessed with Islam?
  • Help for trapped ex-Muslims: International
  • Are ex-Muslims cowards for hiding their identities?
  • What will ex-Muslims do if, after death, Allah actually turns out to be real?

Shia Islam

• Shia Islam
  • Shia Islam: Karbala vs Captive/Slave women
  • Exploring Shia Islam: A Research Guide

Quranists [Hadith Rejectors]

• Quranists (Hadith Rejectors)
  • Engaging with Quranists (The Hadith Rejectors) How to Approach Them?

Islamic Preachers

Daniel Haqiqatjou:

• Denial Haqiqatjou: Women should stay at homes
• Women's Faces & Hands arouse Muslim men (Daniel Haqiqatjou)
• Objection to French Law for Banning Paternity Test (Daniel Haqiqatjou)
• Is Childbirth in Minor Girls safer than 29-year-old Girls?
• Islamists: Why women should not be given Equal Rights
• Daniel Haqiqatjou: Shorter life span was reason for marriage at 9
• APOSTASY: Refuting The Muslim Lantern, Danial Haqiqatjou & Zakir Naik
• Debate: Is Veiling for Women Good? (Daniel vs Nuriyah Khan)
• Islam: Even a breastfed baby Girl can be married and used for sex

Zakir Naik: 

• Did the Quran Really State that the Universe Is Expanding?
• Quranic Mistake: The heart is responsible for Thinking
• The Verse of Killing all Polytheists (Quran 9:5) is still VALID today
• Zakir Naik: 80% of the Quran Matches with Science
• Zakir Naik: Homosexuality begins when you violate the rule of Hijab
• Zamzam Water: Miracles or Deceptions?

Mohammad Hijab:

• Scientific Blunder of the Quran: Sky is a Solid Physical Object

Ali Dawah:

• Homosexuality: All objections of Islamic Preachers answered
• ٰIslamist's Claim: The West forces women to wear Revealing Clothes

Other Religions

Why Discuss Hindutva? This is a valid and important question. Please click here to read the reasons.

• Hindutva
  • Did really Hindu (Vedic) GODS create the Universe and Mankind?
  • Sati & Lies of Hindutva

My Last Words to Allah

Even after fully comprehending that Islam is nothing more than a product of human revelations, I found it difficult to take the final step of leaving it behind and I remained attached to Islam for a while longer.

One question, in particular, weighed heavily on my mind: "What if Allah reveals Himself after my death?"

I thoroughly pondered this question from various angles before directing my last words to Allah:

"Oh Allah! If indeed You exist and possess insight into the depths of my heart, then You would perceive that I have sincerely sought the truth.

However, my honest pursuit has led me to firmly believe within my heart that You do not exist. It is my inherent sense of humanity that compels me to conclude that your system (Islam) is founded upon hostility towards humanity.

Do You truly desire for me to be a hypocrite? Should I outwardly acknowledge Your existence while internally denying it within my heart and mind?

And if I refuse to be a hypocrite, will You condemn me to eternal damnation, even though my heart is sincere? Will all the benevolent deeds I have performed for the betterment of humanity be in vain, leading me to eternal torment?

Therefore, if I am to be held accountable for my disbelief in You, then 'firstly,' You must provide answers for Your failure to present sufficient evidence of Your existence. You must explain why I could not recognize You despite my genuine quest. Why do You condemn billions of individuals, born into non-Muslim families by Your design, to suffer in eternal hellfire merely because they did not become Muslims?

If You reject my genuine intentions, then either Your promise of 'Verily, the reward of deeds depends on the intentions' is false, or Your threat of eternal hellfire is false."

These were my final words to Allah. I never addressed Him thereafter.